Ep. 134: Here & Now

[00:00:16] Welcome to Ink Drinkers, a literary tea party podcast where we discuss books and drink tea.

[00:00:30] Hey, I don't know if you noticed, but our tea is blue.

[00:00:33] I did notice. It's very blue.

[00:00:36] Mm-hmm.

[00:00:37] I mean, to be fair, it's called indigo punch.

[00:00:41] You know, based on that descriptor, I was wondering if we should make it iced, but we're just, we're gonna roll with it.

[00:00:49] And it does have a lot of blue flowers in it.

[00:00:53] So, maybe we're just the ones that are, I think we're so used to our black teas that when we see blue, we're like, blue.

[00:01:02] It's blue.

[00:01:03] It's blue.

[00:01:03] But really, everything about it indicates that it would be blue.

[00:01:08] Yeah.

[00:01:09] So...

[00:01:10] I wasn't surprised that it was blue. It's just, it's a very bright...

[00:01:17] It's a pretty blue color.

[00:01:19] It is. It's very pretty.

[00:01:20] Mm-hmm.

[00:01:21] Like, I want to paint it onto something.

[00:01:22] Yeah, like, I want a dress in this color.

[00:01:27] Um, so we have John and Hillary's, uh, 40th birthday party tomorrow.

[00:01:33] They're both turning 40.

[00:01:34] Hillary turned 40 on July 1st, and John turns 40 on August 25th.

[00:01:39] Okay.

[00:01:41] And I have nothing to wear. I need a dress in this blue color.

[00:01:45] Yep.

[00:01:46] I was, like, trying on stuff earlier. And the dress code is dressy casual, which means nothing

[00:01:52] to me.

[00:01:53] Yeah.

[00:01:53] I don't know. It's... Is it dressy? Is it casual? I don't know. So I'm like, I don't

[00:01:58] know. Is this dress... Is this one too dressy? Is this one too casual? I have no idea.

[00:02:03] I think you can go either way.

[00:02:05] Well, I find it very confusing.

[00:02:07] I generally err on the side of dressier, but that's my personality. If you were to ask my

[00:02:12] husband, he would dress on the side of more casual. So I think it's really your interpretation

[00:02:17] of what you think it means.

[00:02:19] My interpretation is that it has to be both.

[00:02:24] I agree. I agree. I'm just saying if you find something that is slightly one or the

[00:02:28] other, I think it's okay, based on the name. But I know what you're saying. It is

[00:02:34] confusing because they are not the same thing.

[00:02:36] I'm trying to decide if I should make something in my closet work or if I should go get something

[00:02:42] new.

[00:02:42] For half a second, my tired brain said if I should make something. I was like, what?

[00:02:48] Didn't you know that?

[00:02:49] Yeah.

[00:02:50] I know that you crocheted little... What are they? Are they Harry Potter?

[00:02:56] Oh, some of them are Harry Potter. Yeah. So... But I do. I also... I don't know if

[00:03:00] you know this.

[00:03:00] Maybe I'll just make a crochet dress tonight.

[00:03:03] Crochet dress.

[00:03:04] Crochet dress.

[00:03:05] That's what you thought?

[00:03:07] No.

[00:03:07] Okay.

[00:03:07] But I was like, wait, does she sew? For literal half a second because then your next word was

[00:03:13] in my closet.

[00:03:14] In my closet.

[00:03:15] Yeah. No, I design clothing and... No, but I have been asked to design a tattoo.

[00:03:23] By who?

[00:03:25] My cousin.

[00:03:27] It's a lot of pressure.

[00:03:29] Yeah.

[00:03:30] I would think so.

[00:03:31] I'd be... I think I'd decline.

[00:03:34] I couldn't.

[00:03:36] Did you already do it?

[00:03:38] No, I'm in the process. That's what all those doodles are on my...

[00:03:41] I didn't even pay attention.

[00:03:42] Sorry.

[00:03:42] Okay, fine.

[00:03:44] I would like to look at it later.

[00:03:46] I've been doodling things.

[00:03:47] What are the stipulations of what it has to... What is your scope of work?

[00:03:51] My scope of work.

[00:03:53] My scope of work.

[00:03:53] She wants a tattoo.

[00:03:55] She said in my handwriting, but I texted her to be like, does it have to be my ugly handwriting

[00:04:01] or can it just be something I designed? Like in Canva basically.

[00:04:04] Mm-hmm.

[00:04:05] She wants it to say here and now.

[00:04:10] Is there a reference?

[00:04:11] Do we know what this is?

[00:04:12] Or is it not shareable?

[00:04:14] No, it's fine.

[00:04:15] I mean, she lost someone recently and it just reminded her to live in the present.

[00:04:19] Okay.

[00:04:20] And so here and now is her reminder and she wants to get it tattooed like on her inner

[00:04:26] like bicep basically.

[00:04:27] Okay.

[00:04:29] But it's really hard because I'm like trying to make it look nice.

[00:04:34] Mm-hmm.

[00:04:35] But also trying to like add some meaning into it.

[00:04:39] Was there any other...

[00:04:41] That was it.

[00:04:41] That was the whole brief.

[00:04:43] That's all she gave you.

[00:04:43] She was like, it can be whatever you want.

[00:04:45] It can be in print.

[00:04:45] It can be in cursive.

[00:04:47] It can be whatever.

[00:04:47] Whatever.

[00:04:49] I'm like, all right.

[00:04:50] Well, thank you for that.

[00:04:55] No pressure.

[00:04:56] I'm just gonna have to look at it every day for the rest of my life.

[00:04:58] Right.

[00:04:58] Like it has to look nice.

[00:05:00] I don't think my handwriting is nice enough.

[00:05:03] Well, use Canva.

[00:05:05] Well, I asked her if that was okay.

[00:05:07] And she said yes?

[00:05:07] She hasn't responded yet.

[00:05:08] Okay.

[00:05:09] This is new.

[00:05:10] Well...

[00:05:11] This is fresh.

[00:05:12] Yeah.

[00:05:12] So it's...

[00:05:13] I got...

[00:05:14] I received the brief about a week ago.

[00:05:16] Uh-huh.

[00:05:17] And she was like, it's okay.

[00:05:18] You have time.

[00:05:19] And so I've been doodling.

[00:05:20] And then she texted me this morning and was like, hey, do you have it ready yet?

[00:05:24] I'm thinking I might go this weekend.

[00:05:26] And I was like, oh, uh, let me just quickly squiggle it down.

[00:05:32] You're gonna do something just like quickly out of stress.

[00:05:36] And she's gonna be like, oh my God, I love it.

[00:05:39] How did you...

[00:05:40] Have you been working on this the whole time?

[00:05:42] Yeah.

[00:05:42] Every day for hours.

[00:05:45] This is exactly what I had in my brain.

[00:05:47] Oh, so...

[00:05:48] That's what I hope she says.

[00:05:50] Yeah.

[00:05:51] Anyway.

[00:05:51] Good luck with that.

[00:05:52] Thank you.

[00:05:53] Appreciate it.

[00:05:54] I'll let you know how it goes.

[00:05:56] It actually is a lot of pressure.

[00:05:58] It's going permanently on someone's body.

[00:06:01] It's a lot.

[00:06:02] That would give me anxiety.

[00:06:03] A lot of anxiety about it.

[00:06:05] Okay.

[00:06:05] Let's talk about books instead.

[00:06:06] Let's talk about books.

[00:06:07] I think, um, I think it's my turn.

[00:06:09] Mm-hmm.

[00:06:11] Okay.

[00:06:11] So I found this book this week.

[00:06:12] I was trying to find something a little different.

[00:06:14] Cause I didn't know what kind of mood I was in.

[00:06:16] And I found something different.

[00:06:19] I think good different.

[00:06:21] Okay.

[00:06:22] Maybe not five star, but...

[00:06:23] I'm intrigued.

[00:06:24] Yeah.

[00:06:24] So it is called The Love of My Afterlife.

[00:06:31] Okay.

[00:06:31] By Kirstie Greenwood.

[00:06:33] I mean, honestly, it sounds right up your alley.

[00:06:35] It does.

[00:06:35] It does.

[00:06:36] But I haven't read anything like this.

[00:06:38] Okay.

[00:06:39] So, um, it did come out July of this year.

[00:06:43] So it's a new release, relatively.

[00:06:45] Um, I just finished it.

[00:06:50] So I'm a little, I'm trying to remember everyone's name.

[00:06:52] Okay.

[00:06:52] So Delphi is the main character.

[00:06:55] Mm-hmm.

[00:06:55] She lives in a flat there in London.

[00:06:59] Okay.

[00:06:59] So already, wonderful.

[00:07:00] I think what I typed was British novels, 2024.

[00:07:04] And this came up and I was like, what?

[00:07:06] Afterlife?

[00:07:07] British?

[00:07:09] Sign me up.

[00:07:11] Um, she has lived in this flat, I think for a while.

[00:07:14] She's 27.

[00:07:15] She works at a pharmacy as like a pharmacy tech, I think.

[00:07:18] Um, she's not a pharmacist.

[00:07:19] Um, she really doesn't have any family anymore.

[00:07:23] She doesn't have any friends.

[00:07:25] She's kind of a loner.

[00:07:27] Her life is a little sad.

[00:07:31] Poor thing.

[00:07:32] She does, um, have a, a really sweet friendship with the elderly man that lives across the hall

[00:07:38] who's like nonverbal and is slowly like getting older and she goes there and makes him breakfast

[00:07:42] every morning and he's a little bit like a grouch, but he, he likes her, you know?

[00:07:49] Um, there's some fun characters, but in the beginning of the book she's in her flat eating

[00:07:56] her, um, microwaved TV type dinner.

[00:08:00] Um, it's a burger and she gets this piece lodged in her throat and she is alone.

[00:08:08] So she dies?

[00:08:10] And she can't get it out and she tries everything and then she, um, loses consciousness and she

[00:08:17] wakes up and she, yeah, she's dead.

[00:08:21] Wait, so the whole book she's dead?

[00:08:24] Let me finish.

[00:08:26] Give me a second.

[00:08:28] Sink it in.

[00:08:29] I'm okay.

[00:08:30] Okay.

[00:08:32] So she's in this room.

[00:08:34] She doesn't know where she is.

[00:08:36] She's very confused.

[00:08:37] And then there's this woman that pops up and like, hello, how are you?

[00:08:43] Uh, Delphi, right?

[00:08:44] And she's like, what, what's going on?

[00:08:46] And she's like, yes, well, you know, you're, you're, you're, this is Evermore or whatever.

[00:08:53] She was, I think it's called Evermore.

[00:08:54] And she was just like, well, I was just eating.

[00:08:56] She was like, yes, the burger.

[00:08:57] We know.

[00:08:58] And she was like, oh, like embarrassing.

[00:09:02] You know?

[00:09:02] And she was like, did I die?

[00:09:04] And she's like, yes, yeah, you did.

[00:09:06] You know?

[00:09:07] And she's like, what are you talking about?

[00:09:08] And she's so confused.

[00:09:09] And she's like, really sorry, you know?

[00:09:12] And she's like, that's a really awful way to go.

[00:09:14] And she was like, yeah, yeah, it is.

[00:09:16] You know?

[00:09:17] It's like, anyways, the, the girl's name is, um, Merit, I think.

[00:09:22] And she's like the afterlife guide.

[00:09:24] And supposedly there's some other people that are higher up than she is.

[00:09:29] And she hasn't had as many, um, people that she has guided through.

[00:09:34] And so she's very excited that she's gotten this because they're on vacation.

[00:09:39] Oh my God.

[00:09:40] Um, and so it's just amusing.

[00:09:43] It's funny.

[00:09:44] Yeah.

[00:09:44] And so, um, she pretty much tells her, you know, um, well, we're, we're going to do these

[00:09:49] things and kind of get you acclimated.

[00:09:52] And Delphi is just like in complete shock.

[00:09:55] Okay.

[00:09:55] I guess so.

[00:09:56] And, um, she's like, well, I don't want to be here.

[00:09:58] And she's like, right.

[00:09:59] Well, too bad.

[00:10:01] You know?

[00:10:02] And she's like, I'm only 27.

[00:10:03] And she goes, yeah, I know.

[00:10:04] I know.

[00:10:05] You're very young.

[00:10:06] Um, and then she basically is like, so do you want to see your life flash before your

[00:10:11] eyes or do you not?

[00:10:12] And she's like, because we used to, it wasn't a thing.

[00:10:15] And then people would get here and they'd be really upset because they say, wait, I'm not

[00:10:19] gonna see my life flash before my eyes.

[00:10:20] And then we had to like offer it as a service.

[00:10:23] And she's like, we do, you know, it's not as long cause we'd be here forever.

[00:10:28] She's like, so we can do it.

[00:10:29] Do you want it?

[00:10:29] Do you not want it?

[00:10:30] Do you want it?

[00:10:31] And she was like, I mean, I, okay.

[00:10:33] And then we see some things through that.

[00:10:36] It's a very quick little part of it, but where like she's bullied in high school pretty

[00:10:40] badly.

[00:10:40] And, um, there's some stuff with her family life and it kind of like shows us why she

[00:10:45] ended up where she did.

[00:10:46] And when it ends, she's like eating the burger, like falling over.

[00:10:50] And Merritt's like, yikes.

[00:10:52] Yeah.

[00:10:53] You know?

[00:10:54] So Merritt leaves the room and Delphi decides to like walk around cause she's like, what

[00:11:00] is going on?

[00:11:00] I can't be here.

[00:11:01] Like she starts to panic.

[00:11:03] And she ends up in this waiting room and there's a guy in the waiting room and he is

[00:11:06] exceptionally attractive.

[00:11:09] And they start talking and he doesn't realize that he's dead either, but he's like, I don't

[00:11:12] know where I am.

[00:11:13] Like, I don't know what happened.

[00:11:15] And so she kind of starts talking to him and they realize.

[00:11:19] So they fall in love in the afterlife.

[00:11:26] So she's talking to him.

[00:11:27] He tells her his first name.

[00:11:29] They're hitting it off.

[00:11:30] They have really great chemistry.

[00:11:31] She's never had chemistry with anyone.

[00:11:32] She's never dated anyone before in her whole life.

[00:11:36] Merritt walks back in and is like, hi Delphi.

[00:11:38] What are y'all doing?

[00:11:40] And then she was like, little mistake.

[00:11:43] He's not supposed to be here.

[00:11:46] He, they're actually calling him back.

[00:11:48] Um, he didn't fully die.

[00:11:50] So, um, bye.

[00:11:52] You know?

[00:11:52] And she like takes her little finger and she presses it to his forehead and he like poof

[00:11:56] disappears.

[00:11:59] And Delphi is just like, this is the first person I've ever had a connection with my whole

[00:12:03] life and now he's gone.

[00:12:05] Like what?

[00:12:05] You know?

[00:12:06] And she goes, and Merritt's like, and y'all seemed like maybe you were soulmates.

[00:12:10] And she said, there are five soulmates for everyone walking the earth at the same time.

[00:12:14] And he seemed like maybe he was one of yours.

[00:12:16] So anyways, background is they devise a plan that there's some loophole that Merritt tells

[00:12:24] her about where she can go back to do something helpful to Merritt or helpful to other people.

[00:12:33] But it ends up just being, you know, she's like, how is that helpful to you?

[00:12:36] And she says, well, I, I'm kind of bored.

[00:12:39] And that just sounds so interesting.

[00:12:41] I would just love to see how that plays out.

[00:12:42] So the plan is, is that if she can go back and find this guy who she knows his first

[00:12:51] name and the letter T is his last name because he like was trying to say his last name and

[00:12:56] then Merritt interrupted that, um, his name is Jonah, that if he kisses her within 10 days,

[00:13:06] she'll get to stay in her own life.

[00:13:08] Okay.

[00:13:12] This is so odd.

[00:13:13] Yeah.

[00:13:15] Um, there's also just like a bunch of different cast of characters that are funny.

[00:13:19] Um, we meet Cooper who lives on the floor beneath hers and he's obviously also pretty attractive.

[00:13:28] Um, and he's kind of not nice to her, but we find out some things there.

[00:13:34] Um, she meets new people along the way trying to find this guy and starts,

[00:13:43] um, actual friendships with people that she's never been able to do before.

[00:13:47] Um, and I think that she starts to realize that like maybe her life isn't as bad as she

[00:13:52] thought it was and that she has a lot more to live for than just, you know, maybe finding

[00:13:57] this guy.

[00:13:58] And it sounds like she needs a here and now tattoo.

[00:14:02] Is that, is that the name of our episode?

[00:14:06] You can't call it out like that.

[00:14:10] Um, yeah, it was just, I really liked it.

[00:14:13] It was feel good.

[00:14:14] It was funny.

[00:14:15] She's so quirky.

[00:14:16] The characters are quirky.

[00:14:18] It's British.

[00:14:20] Um, you kind of have a vibe of what's going to happen.

[00:14:24] Um, so it's a little predictable, but it was just an all around fun read.

[00:14:28] I would recommend it for sure.

[00:14:31] It sounds interesting and entertaining and different, which is what I was looking for

[00:14:38] at the time.

[00:14:38] So it met all of my criteria.

[00:14:40] Good.

[00:14:41] I'm glad it sounds the whole, um, like having a guide when you die and like whatever it's,

[00:14:51] it reminded me of the middle falls time travel series, which I talked about on the show a

[00:14:57] while back and I still haven't gotten through the whole series because there's like 18 books

[00:15:01] and I've read like 13 of them, but that it just reminded me of that.

[00:15:05] Yeah.

[00:15:06] It would definitely be, um, I could see it being a really good movie, like comedy.

[00:15:12] Right.

[00:15:12] Because Merritt's kind of not great at her role.

[00:15:17] Right.

[00:15:17] You know, um, and she's doing things that she's not supposed to be doing and then only really

[00:15:21] is that information to Delphi like as things are happening.

[00:15:25] Um, whoops.

[00:15:27] Yeah.

[00:15:28] Okay.

[00:15:29] But, but yeah, it was cute.

[00:15:30] I liked it.

[00:15:31] Well, I'm so glad.

[00:15:34] All right.

[00:15:34] Let me tell you about my book.

[00:15:36] So I read Real Americans by Rachel Kong.

[00:15:40] I have it on my list.

[00:15:41] Okay.

[00:15:42] It was everywhere and for good reason.

[00:15:44] Okay.

[00:15:44] It was really good.

[00:15:46] Um, I'm going to have kind of a hard time explaining it to you because there's three

[00:15:51] parts to it.

[00:15:53] Okay.

[00:15:53] And we follow three different characters.

[00:15:55] Okay.

[00:15:55] Which are part of three different generations of the same family.

[00:15:59] Okay.

[00:15:59] So we follow, um, in the first one we follow Lily Chin.

[00:16:05] In the second one we follow Nick Chin, who is her son.

[00:16:08] And then in the third one we follow Lily's mother.

[00:16:13] Okay.

[00:16:15] So I'm going to do my best to tell you things without revealing too much.

[00:16:20] Mm-hmm.

[00:16:21] But I think even Goodreads reveals a little too much.

[00:16:24] Okay.

[00:16:24] I mean, I don't know.

[00:16:25] It kind of doesn't matter what they mentioned, but it kind of does in my opinion.

[00:16:29] So I'm not going to tell you everything that they say.

[00:16:32] Okay.

[00:16:32] But Lily Chin is, she's broke.

[00:16:36] She's totally broke.

[00:16:37] She's working for this media company.

[00:16:39] She was raised in Tampa by these two scientists who came over from China during Mao Zedong's

[00:16:47] reign or whatever.

[00:16:49] Mm-hmm.

[00:16:49] Um, so they escaped China.

[00:16:51] They came to the States.

[00:16:52] They had Lily.

[00:16:54] Okay.

[00:16:54] Lily is now living in New York.

[00:16:59] Mm-hmm.

[00:16:59] And she meets, um, at like a company function.

[00:17:05] She meets a man named Matthew.

[00:17:09] And Matthew is like her boss's nephew or something like that.

[00:17:13] Um, Matthew comes from a super crazy rich family.

[00:17:17] Okay.

[00:17:17] And his family owns like a pharmaceutical empire.

[00:17:22] So there's another connection between our books.

[00:17:25] Mm-hmm.

[00:17:25] She's a pharmacist.

[00:17:26] She works at a pharmacy.

[00:17:27] Yeah.

[00:17:27] She's not a pharmacist.

[00:17:28] She works at a pharmacy.

[00:17:30] So, I know.

[00:17:31] But anyway.

[00:17:32] We always like to find, um, our similarities.

[00:17:34] The common threads.

[00:17:35] Yeah.

[00:17:35] Um, so the two of them, against all odds, fall in love.

[00:17:40] Okay.

[00:17:41] And...

[00:17:41] He is not Asian.

[00:17:43] No.

[00:17:44] Chinese.

[00:17:45] They are white.

[00:17:46] Okay.

[00:17:48] Um, and...

[00:17:50] Matthew has a contentious relationship with his parents.

[00:17:54] And it kind of seems like they don't...

[00:17:57] It seems like both of their parents don't want them to go through this marriage.

[00:18:02] But they don't really say why.

[00:18:04] And you kind of get the sense that maybe it's a racial thing, but you don't really know.

[00:18:09] Um...

[00:18:10] That's why I asked.

[00:18:11] Because I figured there was gonna be...

[00:18:12] Yeah.

[00:18:13] So that kind of...

[00:18:14] I mean, there is an undercurrent of that throughout the whole book.

[00:18:18] Um, because it's, you know, written by an Asian American and that's, you know, an important theme in the book.

[00:18:26] Um, so even despite that, the two of them get married.

[00:18:30] They're living in New York City.

[00:18:31] Um, so...

[00:18:43] So...

[00:18:45] Uh, so...

[00:18:48] Uh, so...

[00:18:56] Uh, so...

[00:19:01] And we're gonna find out the answers that he is seeking.

[00:19:04] Okay.

[00:19:05] I'm being so careful about my words.

[00:19:07] Um, I can't really tell you anything about Nick's story.

[00:19:11] Okay.

[00:19:12] Then we move on in the third part to Lily's mom's story.

[00:19:18] And I can't remember her name.

[00:19:19] Sorry.

[00:19:20] But we get some of her background of when she was living in China and what her life was like there.

[00:19:25] And how and why she came to move to America with her husband.

[00:19:31] Um, and we get to see some of the reasons that at some point in time, Lily quit speaking to her mother.

[00:19:41] Okay.

[00:19:42] And so there's like all these intertwined kind of mysteries because each section ends with like a cliffhanger.

[00:19:51] Okay.

[00:19:52] Interesting.

[00:19:52] So it takes the entire next segment to explain the ending of the previous one.

[00:19:59] And it just, it was all like twisted together and it was really fascinating to read and really well written and just a great story.

[00:20:09] Interesting.

[00:20:09] I mean, I'm very, very intrigued.

[00:20:12] And it was very good.

[00:20:13] Like I said, it's hyped up for a reason.

[00:20:16] Right, it's everywhere.

[00:20:16] Yeah.

[00:20:16] Good to know.

[00:20:18] Good to know you feel that way.

[00:20:19] Don't you love it when a book is everywhere and you're like, oh, this can't possibly be as good as everyone says it is.

[00:20:24] Yes.

[00:20:24] And then you read it and you're like, this was actually amazing.

[00:20:26] Yes.

[00:20:27] Yeah.

[00:20:28] It's the best.

[00:20:30] Agreed.

[00:20:31] All right.

[00:20:31] Tell us about our blue tea, please.

[00:20:33] Okay.

[00:20:34] It needed to be cold.

[00:20:35] One.

[00:20:35] It definitely did.

[00:20:37] It doesn't have a whole lot of flavor?

[00:20:39] No.

[00:20:39] You get that?

[00:20:40] Agreed.

[00:20:41] So this is Indigo Punch by Herney and Sons.

[00:20:45] It is an herbal tea, which isn't typically what we drink.

[00:20:49] Yeah.

[00:20:50] I don't know.

[00:20:51] It's not a lot of flavor, but the ingredients that I don't taste are apple pieces, rose hips,

[00:21:00] butterfly pea flower, lemon peel, lemongrass, raspberry flavor, honey flavor contains natural flavors.

[00:21:09] I think I'm tasting the natural flavors.

[00:21:12] I think so.

[00:21:13] I'm only getting the natural flavors if I had to, no, not really.

[00:21:19] If you had to pinpoint it, it would be the natural flavors.

[00:21:22] Yes, I think so.

[00:21:24] I don't know.

[00:21:25] I maybe taste a little bit of raspberry.

[00:21:27] Yeah.

[00:21:28] Yeah.

[00:21:28] But it kind of has the idea in your mind of like what flavored blue raspberry things

[00:21:33] are.

[00:21:34] Does that make sense?

[00:21:35] Yeah, but what is blue raspberry?

[00:21:38] That.

[00:21:39] I don't.

[00:21:40] It's natural flavors of blue raspberry.

[00:21:43] It's caffeine free.

[00:21:45] The butterfly pea flower is what's making it blue.

[00:21:50] Is it?

[00:21:51] That's what.

[00:21:52] That's what.

[00:21:53] An indigo bouquet of beautiful butterfly pea flower.

[00:21:57] So this blue flower.

[00:21:59] Interesting.

[00:22:00] Because when you open the tin, like you see flowers.

[00:22:04] Butterfly.

[00:22:04] Butterfly pea flower is this one, which is why it's the indigo color that it is.

[00:22:10] Huh.

[00:22:11] Well, that was an interesting, an interesting taste.

[00:22:16] Iced.

[00:22:16] Thank you, Marissa, for picking that one up for us.

[00:22:21] Well, you're welcome.

[00:22:24] I do think that it would be okay iced.

[00:22:27] Yeah.

[00:22:28] Sure.

[00:22:29] But who has, who's drinking iced tea brewed like that?

[00:22:34] Not me.

[00:22:35] I mean, I could have just poured this over ice and it would have been fine.

[00:22:39] Yeah, but I'm saying like, I don't typically take like tea that needs to be steeped and make

[00:22:44] iced tea.

[00:22:45] I know.

[00:22:46] I hear you.

[00:22:47] I hear you.

[00:22:48] I hear you.

[00:22:48] And just buy, you know, a jug of Milo's iced tea or something.

[00:22:53] You know what I mean?

[00:22:54] Or Cain's.

[00:22:55] Mmm.

[00:22:56] Cain's iced tea.

[00:22:56] Cain's iced tea is pretty great.

[00:22:59] It's legit.

[00:23:02] On that note.

[00:23:05] I'm not ending like that.

[00:23:07] That sounds ridiculous.

[00:23:09] Try that again.

[00:23:12] Can't get through it.

[00:23:13] Okay.

[00:23:14] Well.

[00:23:16] I'm leaving all of this in.

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[00:23:18] Cheers.

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