Ep. 124: In Slow Motion
Ink Drinkers: A Literary Tea Party PodcastJune 03, 202400:22:4031.14 MB

Ep. 124: In Slow Motion

Books Mentioned

  • Spitting Gold by Carmella Lowkis
  • Wrong Place Wrong Time by Gillian McAllister
  • The Last Murder at the End of the World by Stuart Turton
  • The 7 ½ Deaths of Evelyn Hardcastle by Stuart Turton

Tea

  • Vanilla Bean Macaron Tea by Tazo

[00:00:04] Welcome to Ink Drinkers, a literary tea party podcast where we discuss books and drink

[00:00:22] tea.

[00:00:23] Are you ready for me now?

[00:00:31] Yeah, I didn't realize you had pressed the button.

[00:00:35] Sorry.

[00:00:36] I'm in slow motion.

[00:00:37] It's okay.

[00:00:38] You kind of are in slow motion today.

[00:00:40] I know.

[00:00:41] It's a good description.

[00:00:42] I'm tired.

[00:00:44] Teddy, poor thing, is also in slow motion because he had to get three shots with the vet this

[00:00:49] morning.

[00:00:50] He was such a trooper though.

[00:00:51] He did not whimper at all.

[00:00:56] Like nothing.

[00:00:57] He just stood there, took the shots and was like, boom, I'm a badass.

[00:01:02] Lucia would say, Teddy, I'm so proud of you.

[00:01:06] She's been saying that a lot randomly, I think because we said it to her a couple

[00:01:10] times.

[00:01:11] She was staying with my parents and mom said that randomly she went to dad and she said,

[00:01:16] Poppy, I'm so proud of you.

[00:01:19] And she said he literally melted on the couch.

[00:01:24] Margot's thing lately has been cool.

[00:01:26] So she'll be like, oh, what are you doing on your phone?

[00:01:29] I'm like, I'm just playing a game.

[00:01:31] She's like, oh, cool.

[00:01:32] She should not be coming out of a three year old's mouth.

[00:01:35] It's really adorable.

[00:01:39] Kids, they do say the darndest things.

[00:01:42] They sure do.

[00:01:43] They sure do.

[00:01:44] Was it Bill Cosby that did that show?

[00:01:47] And he's canceled now.

[00:01:49] Oh dear.

[00:01:50] Yeah, sure did.

[00:01:51] Yeah, I mean, it was a funny show.

[00:01:52] I remember watching some episodes.

[00:01:53] I guess it was rerun.

[00:01:54] Yeah, well, he was a funny comedian.

[00:01:57] I don't know if I'm allowed to say that.

[00:01:58] I think he was funny.

[00:02:00] Is that going to get me canceled?

[00:02:02] I don't know.

[00:02:04] I think we're fine.

[00:02:06] These days, you just don't know.

[00:02:10] Okay, well anyway.

[00:02:14] Weird to talk about books.

[00:02:16] Who goes first?

[00:02:20] I don't know, me.

[00:02:22] How about, I know you're not super excited about your book

[00:02:25] and I'm very excited about mine.

[00:02:27] So let's like get yours out of the way.

[00:02:29] Yeah, okay.

[00:02:30] Good idea.

[00:02:32] My book is Spitting Gold by Carmela Locus?

[00:02:38] Locus?

[00:02:40] Well, I don't know.

[00:02:41] I can't see it.

[00:02:44] I still don't see.

[00:02:45] Oh, there I see it.

[00:02:46] Sorry.

[00:02:47] Carmela Locus?

[00:02:48] Locus?

[00:02:49] I don't know.

[00:02:50] Okay.

[00:02:53] So this is a debut novel that just came out

[00:02:55] at the beginning of this month.

[00:02:57] It was, it's described as a dark Gothic novel.

[00:03:05] Yes, it is, but I don't know.

[00:03:07] I feel like it was different than other dark,

[00:03:09] than other Gothic novels I've read in the past,

[00:03:12] which I know you're not particularly fond of.

[00:03:14] Right, but the way it was described,

[00:03:15] I was like this is a Marissa book,

[00:03:17] which is why I sent it to you and now I feel bad.

[00:03:20] I've been really striking out.

[00:03:21] It wasn't terrible by any means.

[00:03:24] It was not.

[00:03:25] I just, it drug on in the middle part.

[00:03:28] And so, I don't know.

[00:03:30] I don't know.

[00:03:31] I was probably, I probably had three hours left

[00:03:34] and I was just kind of meh about it.

[00:03:37] And then it does pick up,

[00:03:39] but at that point the pickup is somewhat interesting,

[00:03:44] but not enough to...

[00:03:46] To really keep you wanting to read.

[00:03:48] Well, so honestly I don't remember

[00:03:50] what the description was.

[00:03:51] I remember there's something about like magic

[00:03:53] or witches or something.

[00:03:54] Yes, so it's not witches or magic.

[00:03:57] It's more paranormal activity type.

[00:03:59] Okay.

[00:04:00] Topic, so these two sisters are living in Paris in 1866,

[00:04:08] Sylvie and Charlotte Montt

[00:04:11] and Sylvie is now the Baroness Devereux.

[00:04:15] Oh.

[00:04:16] Yes.

[00:04:17] The Baroness.

[00:04:18] She founds herself in a very ahoyte position

[00:04:22] by attending a ball and meeting the Baron.

[00:04:26] Yes.

[00:04:27] I see.

[00:04:28] They come from pretty low,

[00:04:31] a low end background.

[00:04:36] And their whole schtick, if you want to call it that,

[00:04:39] was pretending to be mediums.

[00:04:42] Oh, mediums.

[00:04:43] That's right.

[00:04:44] Yeah, and so at this time their dad was in on it as well

[00:04:48] and their mother has passed away at the point.

[00:04:52] I mean, it's still kind of in the past,

[00:04:53] but at the beginning of the book,

[00:04:55] when we start hearing everything,

[00:04:56] she's passed away.

[00:04:57] And so what they do is they live with their father

[00:05:00] and their source of income is to defraud these families

[00:05:04] into thinking that they're actually communicating

[00:05:07] with their passed on loved ones.

[00:05:10] Yeah, yeah.

[00:05:11] And they go through, go to like a,

[00:05:13] you know, pretty big lengths to do so.

[00:05:16] It's kind of screwed up.

[00:05:19] Hey, people gotta make money.

[00:05:20] Yeah.

[00:05:21] So especially in 1886, Paris, you know, whatever.

[00:05:26] You gotta exploit it.

[00:05:27] You gotta be able to feed yourself.

[00:05:30] So Sylvie has always dreamt of a different life

[00:05:34] than the one that she's in.

[00:05:36] She meets the Baron at the beginning of the book.

[00:05:38] She's already married to the Baron

[00:05:40] and she has left behind the life

[00:05:43] of this fake medium that she and her sister are doing.

[00:05:49] She left the sister to tend to the dad

[00:05:51] since the mother died.

[00:05:52] He's like a drunk and just a really big jerk

[00:05:55] and I think he beats them.

[00:05:57] He's not a nice guy.

[00:05:58] And so her leaving really broke Charlotte

[00:06:03] because she felt abandoned, obviously,

[00:06:06] because she was, and their mother had died

[00:06:08] and you know that whole thing.

[00:06:09] So she has not seen Charlotte or her father

[00:06:12] in quite some time

[00:06:14] and Charlotte finds her,

[00:06:18] she finds the sister Sylvie,

[00:06:20] goes to her house and basically says

[00:06:23] that our dad is dying.

[00:06:25] I don't have any money

[00:06:26] and I have one new client that has come to me

[00:06:31] to help them, you know, speak to a past,

[00:06:35] to a passed on loved one.

[00:06:36] Will you help me do this one last time?

[00:06:39] And I mean the Baroness can't like

[00:06:41] front some money to her sister.

[00:06:43] So the husband told her that if he marries her,

[00:06:47] there was a scandal that happened with the sister

[00:06:51] when he met Sylvie that happened with Charlotte

[00:06:55] with the business and everything that came out with that.

[00:06:57] So he told her, I want to marry you,

[00:07:01] but I will only marry you

[00:07:02] if you never speak to your family again.

[00:07:03] You basically disown them

[00:07:04] and that all this medium nonsense

[00:07:07] and she didn't tell him that like it was a fraud.

[00:07:10] She said, I believed in it,

[00:07:11] but maybe it wasn't really real.

[00:07:13] You know, she tries to do whatever she can

[00:07:15] to make him wanna be with her basically

[00:07:17] to get herself out of the position that she's in.

[00:07:20] So she's not allowed to support her sister

[00:07:22] or even talk to her apparently.

[00:07:24] And at that point, like she doesn't have money

[00:07:26] of her own so she would have to ask him

[00:07:28] for a sum of money and you know what I mean?

[00:07:31] It's not like she has access to funds or anything.

[00:07:33] Fair enough.

[00:07:34] We are in the 1800s

[00:07:35] and women aren't allowed to have their own money.

[00:07:38] Correct.

[00:07:39] So she enlists her help.

[00:07:42] She says yes because I think she feels bad,

[00:07:44] obviously for Charlotte.

[00:07:46] And the family is the Dejacono family

[00:07:50] that they are helping

[00:07:51] and they are trying to contact their dead aunt

[00:07:55] who died gruesomely during the French Revolution.

[00:07:59] So there is a little historical fiction in there as well.

[00:08:03] And the Dejacono family is a little strange.

[00:08:07] So there's something going,

[00:08:09] there's some stuff going on there.

[00:08:11] There's a grandfather who's very angry and old.

[00:08:14] He's gotten very religious in his old age

[00:08:16] in like a strange way.

[00:08:18] And his daughter and then his daughter's children,

[00:08:23] which are adults, they're adult children.

[00:08:25] And that's kind of who it focuses on

[00:08:27] is Maximilian the grandson

[00:08:28] and Florence the granddaughter.

[00:08:30] Florence has had something pretty traumatic happen to her

[00:08:35] in the last couple of years.

[00:08:37] And so they're trying to help their family as a whole

[00:08:43] but then we start kind of figuring out

[00:08:45] that there's some deception going on

[00:08:48] with the family members.

[00:08:50] With the Dejacono family, yeah.

[00:08:52] Yes and deception between the sisters.

[00:08:55] I mean there's deception all around

[00:08:56] and I think it touches on those topics

[00:08:59] of family deception, fraud,

[00:09:04] trying to change your status in life.

[00:09:10] It's a lot of that.

[00:09:11] And supposedly the title Spitting Gold

[00:09:15] is a nod to a fairy tale

[00:09:20] that is basically about,

[00:09:22] I think it might be called The Fairies

[00:09:23] or something like that, I don't remember.

[00:09:25] But it's a story about two sisters

[00:09:29] and a fairy comes down and bestows,

[00:09:33] I don't remember the whole story,

[00:09:34] but bestows one sister when she speaks gold

[00:09:37] comes from her mouth.

[00:09:38] When the other one speaks,

[00:09:39] toads come from her mouth.

[00:09:40] And so it's the idea,

[00:09:42] the premise is that one sister is bad

[00:09:44] and one is not

[00:09:45] and so the readers are supposed to figure out

[00:09:49] in so many ways what sister is good

[00:09:52] and which is bad based on all the things

[00:09:53] that they're doing and why they're doing them.

[00:09:55] Does that make sense?

[00:09:57] Yeah.

[00:09:58] So anyways, what happens very,

[00:10:02] and then I'm gonna stop

[00:10:03] because I'm not gonna go into detail,

[00:10:04] so they start doing these seances

[00:10:06] at the Dejacono family home.

[00:10:08] And all the things that they used to do

[00:10:10] and their cons are happening

[00:10:13] without them doing anything.

[00:10:15] Oh.

[00:10:16] And so we as a reader have to figure out

[00:10:20] if it's real or fake

[00:10:23] and we are getting both sides,

[00:10:26] the beginning is Sylvie's side of the story

[00:10:30] and then it switches to Charlotte.

[00:10:32] Interesting.

[00:10:35] Yeah, I mean this really does

[00:10:37] doesn't sound like the type of book

[00:10:39] that I personally would be into.

[00:10:41] Right.

[00:10:42] But it kind of does sound like something

[00:10:43] that you.

[00:10:44] It does, it does.

[00:10:45] I just, it dragged.

[00:10:46] Yeah.

[00:10:47] It just did not hold my interest

[00:10:49] and then by the time, like I said,

[00:10:50] when it did pick up

[00:10:52] and you get to the deception parts

[00:10:54] and you're like oh yeah, I guess,

[00:10:55] and I didn't think of it.

[00:10:56] It's not like I guessed it or anything.

[00:10:59] And there was some other,

[00:11:01] there's twists and turns and all of it,

[00:11:06] it's like it had all the bones

[00:11:08] but it just didn't.

[00:11:09] Just didn't quite hit home for you?

[00:11:10] No, I don't know.

[00:11:12] I mean.

[00:11:13] But if people like gothic novels

[00:11:16] and somewhat historical fiction

[00:11:18] and all of that sounded interesting,

[00:11:21] you might really like it.

[00:11:22] I don't know.

[00:11:23] Yeah, if you had just, I think,

[00:11:25] stopped at like 1847 Paris

[00:11:28] or whatever the year was,

[00:11:29] I would have been like yeah, I'm in.

[00:11:30] Right.

[00:11:32] But yeah, so I've had a string.

[00:11:35] I'm waiting for the five star glowing read.

[00:11:40] I did.

[00:11:41] I'm not telling you about this book today

[00:11:43] but I will say I felt the same thing.

[00:11:46] I was in a slump.

[00:11:47] I was like I need something

[00:11:48] that's just going to be a hit.

[00:11:50] And so I know that Anne Bogle has written

[00:11:57] through modern Mrs. Darcy

[00:12:00] two blog posts about books that are unput downable

[00:12:03] is her word.

[00:12:04] I was like I need one of those.

[00:12:06] Well, I think I had already read

[00:12:07] almost every one of the books on her first list

[00:12:10] and that was how I found her blog in the first place

[00:12:12] was that blog post.

[00:12:14] But I knew there was a second list.

[00:12:15] So I went to the second list

[00:12:16] and I was like all right,

[00:12:17] which of these have I not read?

[00:12:19] And so I ended up downloading

[00:12:20] Wrong Place, Wrong Time by Jillian McAllister

[00:12:24] and it was like a time travel type of book

[00:12:27] and it was really, really good

[00:12:28] and I couldn't stop listening.

[00:12:30] Okay.

[00:12:31] And that like got me back into it.

[00:12:33] Nice.

[00:12:34] Yeah.

[00:12:35] So I don't know.

[00:12:36] Maybe you should read the same exact book

[00:12:37] and see if that does it for you.

[00:12:39] It was so interesting that

[00:12:41] I might.

[00:12:42] Yeah.

[00:12:43] Yeah, because I love time travel too.

[00:12:45] If you don't end up reading it,

[00:12:47] I'll tell you about it on a later episode.

[00:12:49] But for now, I'm just,

[00:12:51] I loved the book that I just finished so much

[00:12:54] that I just have to tell you about it.

[00:12:55] Tell me about it.

[00:12:56] It is so strange.

[00:12:57] It is a very strange book.

[00:12:58] I'm just gonna throw that out there first.

[00:13:00] It's called The Last Murder at the End of the World

[00:13:02] by Stuart Turton

[00:13:04] and it's the same guy that wrote

[00:13:05] The Seven and a Half Deaths of Evelyn Hardcastle.

[00:13:08] Okay.

[00:13:09] And he writes some strange books,

[00:13:11] but I love it because I'm like,

[00:13:13] how do people's brains think of these things?

[00:13:16] I never read that first book.

[00:13:18] Right.

[00:13:19] You did?

[00:13:20] Yeah, I did and I loved it.

[00:13:21] Yeah, okay.

[00:13:22] Obviously.

[00:13:23] That was the one that I.

[00:13:24] That was.

[00:13:25] I thought I was downloading The Seven Husbands.

[00:13:27] I thought you were gonna let me go.

[00:13:29] I mean, you can see how I might make that mistake.

[00:13:31] Oh, for sure.

[00:13:32] I did read that.

[00:13:33] Yes.

[00:13:35] Okay, so let me set the scene for you

[00:13:37] in The Last Murder at the End of the World.

[00:13:39] The entire Earth has been swept up

[00:13:44] in this deathly fog.

[00:13:47] Okay.

[00:13:48] That basically like when the fog touches you,

[00:13:50] you're like ripped into pieces or something.

[00:13:52] I don't really know exactly what it does.

[00:13:53] Lovely.

[00:13:54] Yeah, except for this one little like island

[00:13:58] that used to be a military base.

[00:14:00] And I assume it's an island off of the UK

[00:14:04] because he's British and the narrator is British

[00:14:07] and whatever, but I don't know,

[00:14:08] it could be anywhere.

[00:14:09] Okay.

[00:14:10] So there's this group of villagers.

[00:14:14] I think there's 122 villagers or something

[00:14:17] and three of what they call the village elders,

[00:14:21] which are scientists basically.

[00:14:23] And they are all living on this island together

[00:14:26] and they are protected from the fog.

[00:14:28] Okay.

[00:14:29] And the fog doesn't reach them

[00:14:31] or they are immune to it?

[00:14:33] The fog does not reach the island.

[00:14:36] Okay.

[00:14:37] I don't think it's spoiling anything for me

[00:14:39] to say that they have this equipment

[00:14:40] that basically like keeps the fog away.

[00:14:42] Ah, repels it.

[00:14:43] Yeah, that's how they like stay protected.

[00:14:45] Okay.

[00:14:46] So these villagers, not the village elders,

[00:14:52] just the villagers, they lead very interesting lives

[00:14:56] every single day at sundown.

[00:14:59] No matter where they are, they fall asleep

[00:15:02] and it's not sundown necessarily.

[00:15:06] I think it's like at 7 PM or at 8 PM exactly.

[00:15:08] And so they know they need to be in their bed by 8 PM

[00:15:12] so that they'll fall asleep.

[00:15:14] If not, just wherever they're standing, boop,

[00:15:17] they're asleep.

[00:15:18] And then at like 6 AM or whatever it is, boop,

[00:15:22] they're woken up and they go about their day.

[00:15:24] Okay, okay.

[00:15:26] All right, all right.

[00:15:27] This does not happen to the village elders

[00:15:29] who seem to be like...

[00:15:34] Are they like puppeteers?

[00:15:36] Are they doing something weird?

[00:15:38] Okay.

[00:15:39] Then the other thing about the villagers

[00:15:41] is they all die at 60.

[00:15:44] What?

[00:15:45] Yeah, like no matter what.

[00:15:47] And they know they're gonna die at 60 so...

[00:15:49] But the elders do not.

[00:15:50] No, the elders do.

[00:15:51] The elders know everything.

[00:15:53] But I'm saying they die at 60 also?

[00:15:55] No, the elders do not.

[00:15:56] The elders are like 100 and something years old.

[00:15:58] Oh.

[00:15:59] Yeah.

[00:16:00] They've been on this island for almost 100 years.

[00:16:02] So are the villagers their children?

[00:16:07] There's lots of questions that I can't answer for you.

[00:16:09] Okay, all right.

[00:16:11] Yes, so the villagers die at 60.

[00:16:13] So they know like the day before their 60th birthday,

[00:16:16] get their affairs in order, say their goodbyes,

[00:16:19] and they're gone, they out.

[00:16:21] There are no children born to people on the island,

[00:16:25] but there are children brought to the villagers

[00:16:30] basically at the age of eight.

[00:16:32] And so if you're one of the lucky villagers,

[00:16:35] you might be given a child, an eight-year-old child.

[00:16:39] Are they not able to reproduce or you don't know?

[00:16:43] Okay.

[00:16:44] Okay, she can't tell me.

[00:16:45] I will not answer any questions.

[00:16:47] Okay.

[00:16:48] I will only tell you.

[00:16:49] Goodness.

[00:16:50] I don't know.

[00:16:51] What?

[00:16:52] So this is the scene.

[00:16:55] Okay, this is what's happening on this little island.

[00:16:58] Oh gosh, I feel like these weird old people

[00:17:01] are doing something strange to these people

[00:17:04] when they fall asleep at eight o'clock.

[00:17:06] I'm not, I don't like it.

[00:17:08] I'm uncomfortable.

[00:17:10] So we know that something,

[00:17:16] oh I also forgot to tell you about Abby.

[00:17:19] Abby is the voice in everyone's head.

[00:17:22] So the villagers and the elders can talk to Abby

[00:17:28] and Abby talks back to them.

[00:17:29] It's like an AI kind of thing, but like in your head.

[00:17:32] Right, okay.

[00:17:33] Yeah, sounds really creepy.

[00:17:36] So we know that Abby has been having a conversation

[00:17:41] with Neema, who's one of the elders,

[00:17:43] like the lead village elder, the lead scientist.

[00:17:47] And she is going to try an experiment.

[00:17:51] And if the experiment fails,

[00:17:53] then the fog is gonna start creeping into the island.

[00:17:56] So that's at night.

[00:17:58] The next morning, everyone wakes up.

[00:18:02] Neema is dead.

[00:18:04] Neema is dead.

[00:18:06] And the fog is creeping in.

[00:18:08] And Abby says, the only way to stop the fog

[00:18:12] is to figure out who killed Neema,

[00:18:16] get a confession and execute them.

[00:18:21] And Abby knows.

[00:18:23] Abby, oh, that's the other thing.

[00:18:26] There's so many like little ooh, ooh, ooh in that.

[00:18:29] Abby has been instructed by Neema

[00:18:32] to wipe everyone's memory of that night.

[00:18:34] So no one knows what has happened.

[00:18:37] So then the person that killed her

[00:18:39] wouldn't know that they killed her.

[00:18:41] Well, I mean, they were planning to.

[00:18:43] Wow.

[00:18:44] So it is the strangest whodunit.

[00:18:46] They have to like go around the island,

[00:18:48] like looking for clues and little by little

[00:18:52] information is revealed about who they are

[00:18:54] and why they're there and how all of this works

[00:18:57] and et cetera.

[00:18:58] And it was so fascinating.

[00:19:00] I'm so intrigued.

[00:19:02] I need to read it.

[00:19:03] I need to know.

[00:19:04] I will say I could see how this book

[00:19:07] would be very polarizing.

[00:19:08] Like you're either going to love it

[00:19:10] or you're going to hate it.

[00:19:11] And I mean, I loved it obviously,

[00:19:13] but like it has a 3.86 on Goodreads.

[00:19:16] And there's people who are like one star.

[00:19:19] This is ridiculous.

[00:19:20] Why did I read this?

[00:19:22] It was so stupid, whatever.

[00:19:24] So I don't, you know, I don't know.

[00:19:27] I'm obviously in the love camp.

[00:19:29] I thought it was fascinating and really well done.

[00:19:35] And yeah, I've never read anything like it before.

[00:19:40] Okay.

[00:19:41] I need to read it.

[00:19:42] I need to read it.

[00:19:43] I need to read it now.

[00:19:44] Wow.

[00:19:46] Okay.

[00:19:47] This actually, now that I think about it,

[00:19:49] may have been a good joint book.

[00:19:50] Sorry about that.

[00:19:51] No, I did tell you though,

[00:19:53] this is the one that I told you.

[00:19:54] I was like, it could make for a good read,

[00:19:56] but a good joint read.

[00:19:58] Yeah.

[00:19:59] But I just don't,

[00:20:00] I don't know if you're going to like it or not.

[00:20:02] But that's part of...

[00:20:03] I know, I know.

[00:20:04] Okay.

[00:20:07] Okay.

[00:20:08] Anyway, if you do read it,

[00:20:09] I would love to hear.

[00:20:10] Okay.

[00:20:11] If you're in the love it or hate it camp.

[00:20:13] Sure.

[00:20:14] I'll let you know.

[00:20:15] So all right.

[00:20:16] The tea that we're drinking.

[00:20:20] I can't remember which grocery store I was in,

[00:20:22] but I was, I think it was Albertsons,

[00:20:25] which I never go to,

[00:20:27] but I was in Albertsons and I like walked down the tea aisle

[00:20:30] and I saw this Tazo vanilla bean macaron black tea

[00:20:37] and sounded delicious.

[00:20:39] And it literally says dessert delights on the box.

[00:20:42] So I was like, oh yeah.

[00:20:44] It's quite good.

[00:20:45] We are doing this.

[00:20:46] I like it.

[00:20:47] It's delicious.

[00:20:48] Very good.

[00:20:49] So this is what it says on the box.

[00:20:52] You don't have to go far to feel like you're

[00:20:54] in a French bakery in the streets of Paris.

[00:20:56] Paris?

[00:20:57] Paris?

[00:20:58] What?

[00:20:59] Why is there always a tie?

[00:21:01] With cinnamon, cardamom,

[00:21:02] cocoa peel and licorice root infused into the most delicious of black teas.

[00:21:06] You'll think you're already there.

[00:21:08] Oh look, a table by the window just opened up.

[00:21:12] That's on the box.

[00:21:13] That was not me.

[00:21:16] It's a very low caffeine tea.

[00:21:18] So probably something you could drink at night if you wanted.

[00:21:22] Like sometimes when I'm craving something sweet at night,

[00:21:25] I'll just get like a sweeter kind of tea to satisfy that craving.

[00:21:29] So I love this.

[00:21:31] I think it is wonderful.

[00:21:33] It's delicious.

[00:21:35] Agreed.

[00:21:36] Honestly though, if I had read the ingredients,

[00:21:39] the cinnamon, the licorice, I wouldn't have...

[00:21:41] I was kind of thinking.

[00:21:42] I was like, she picked that up.

[00:21:43] Yeah, I wouldn't have bought this.

[00:21:45] But on the front it just says black tea,

[00:21:48] a fragrant vanilla and a dash of cinnamon.

[00:21:51] But I didn't even read that.

[00:21:52] I just saw vanilla beans.

[00:21:54] Macaron.

[00:21:55] Macaron and the box is so pretty and it just drew me in.

[00:21:59] I was like, I'm getting this.

[00:22:01] Well, it was a good pick.

[00:22:03] It sure was.

[00:22:05] Well Marissa, I hope that you were able to find a book

[00:22:09] that pulls you out of your slump.

[00:22:11] And until then, cheers.

[00:22:16] Cheers.

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