Ep. 116: Chill Out, ChatGPT

[00:00:00] Welcome to Ink Drinkers, a Literary Tea Party Podcast where we discuss books and drink tea.

[00:00:30] Hello, Adi. Hi, Jamie. So Ink Drinkers, we have obviously a different guest host on this week since

[00:00:41] Marissa is a little bit out of commission at the moment. But Adi, thank you so much for being on

[00:00:49] here with me today and taking Marissa's place for the moment. I feel like it's kind of crazy that

[00:00:57] you haven't been on here yet in the 100 and something episodes we've done. Yeah, I mean, yeah,

[00:01:04] that's a lot of episodes and we talk books literally almost every day. Exactly. So how have you

[00:01:10] never been on the podcast? I don't know, but I'm glad that you're here now. So tell us a little bit

[00:01:16] about yourself and your life in your podcast because you and I are doing a little podcast swap

[00:01:22] a room where I am on yours and you are on mine. So tell me about it. And that's been super fun

[00:01:28] because we don't regularly get to hang out with faces. Yes, sure. We're on Zoom right now. So

[00:01:34] so that makes it extra special. Well, I'm Adi Yoder and I am a little bit of a lot of things.

[00:01:44] I'm a farmer in Northeast Missouri. I have four kids and drive them up and down the road all of the

[00:01:51] time. But in my professional life, I am a coach and a podcaster. So my podcast is called Grayson

[00:01:59] Growth with Adi. And it is themed around knowing who you are and what you want. And then using

[00:02:05] that to be happier and make decisions a little bit easier than when you don't know those things

[00:02:10] about yourself. And so I like to joke that because I'm the boss and I get to do what I want. I

[00:02:16] also get to talk on my podcast with my friends and about books and the things that I love as well

[00:02:21] because that's who I am. And so, so we do that. We talk about books and the things that we like

[00:02:26] and try to figure out how to make our lives a little bit happier along the way.

[00:02:32] I love that. And that is what Marissa and I say all the time is that like we can talk about books

[00:02:40] and drink tea anytime. But to be able to like have a set time each week where we do this

[00:02:46] with each other, it's just I don't know. It's special. Yeah. And I think that's what make

[00:02:52] sure podcast special is because you guys are genuinely friends in real life and you get to have

[00:02:57] this conversation and it's kind of a glimpse into who you are together. Oh well I appreciate

[00:03:03] you saying that. Yeah. Even though I'm behind. Oh, it's you know what life life happens. And I'm

[00:03:10] behind on your podcast too. So I wanted to ask because the other day you and I were workshopping

[00:03:15] a new intro for your podcast. Have you recorded it yet? And is it in action? It is in action.

[00:03:21] It launched this very week on the episode of Fallen Ballard in Courtney K. Oh my gosh. Okay,

[00:03:28] that's so exciting. I love that. We or I used AI to help out with it and it was so ridiculous. I

[00:03:36] took what you sent me and I plugged it into chat GPT and I was like make this sound more formal and

[00:03:43] it certainly did. I can't even remember the phrases that it used but it was so ridiculous. I was

[00:03:51] like no one talks like this chat GPT. Yeah, no they don't. And I took what you sent me from chat GPT

[00:03:58] and we laughed about it. And then I added it a little bit and then I sent it to another friend in

[00:04:02] marketing and she was like what the heck did you do when I was like use chat GPT hot. It was like

[00:04:10] the most esteemed podcast of some things and I was like oh my god. Okay chill out chat GPT

[00:04:19] but it was fun. So okay so are you gonna go with two books today? You want to tell me about

[00:04:25] two books? I have two books. Okay, let's do it because I always want you know my TBR list to

[00:04:34] just grow longer and longer. So let's just add more to the pile. Okay, I love you. So you start

[00:04:40] and tell me about your book and then I'll go and then you'll go again. Okay so this first book I

[00:04:45] actually got to be when I was reading it because it's movie, movie adjacent. Okay. And I know that

[00:04:52] you are like a movie fan like me but the first book that I have is How To End a Love Story by

[00:04:59] Yuleen Wang. Okay and so there's a couple of things here one it is a sort of it's not a celebrity

[00:05:09] romance but they she is an author and he is a screenwriter and they have this history and I can tell

[00:05:16] you about it because it is the first chapter of the book is that in the very first chapter of the

[00:05:21] book her sister dies and he is connected to her death in a way that makes her very angry at him.

[00:05:29] So this is like in high school so they know each other in high school and then she goes on to be

[00:05:34] a successful author and he goes on to be a successful screenwriter and they do not know each other

[00:05:40] as adults but when her books are picked up to be turned into a movie, he is on the screenwriting team.

[00:05:48] Oh wow. And she is not happy about it because she hates his guts for his connection to her sister's

[00:05:56] death and he is harboring his own set of feelings about this that are like you get both of their

[00:06:04] perspectives. Okay so it's a dual POV written yes and so you know what he's

[00:06:11] what his trauma is and you know what her trauma is. And so you're bouncing back and forth right?

[00:06:20] Like oh I feel for him and I feel for her and you also see what's coming because it is romance

[00:06:25] but the thing that stood out to me about this book was the writing and I say that because I am

[00:06:33] not a deep reader at all. You can ask me about books and I'll be like oh yeah that was fun.

[00:06:39] Was it orange? Right and our friend, Mary, asked me about this. She's like it was green,

[00:06:46] Addy you know. And so I just am not a deep reader. I read herely for my own joy and entertainment

[00:06:54] and things like writing and punctuation and stuff like that don't stand out to me. I know

[00:06:59] that Carrie notices a lot more than I do. Like she noticed in a book that I was like that was great.

[00:07:03] She was like they said the same phrase 652 times because I searched it in my Kindle. And I would

[00:07:10] not consider that at all. So if I notice writing and how people use words that means it's real good

[00:07:16] because I don't realize that stuff. And there were times when I was reading this on my Kindle

[00:07:21] that I was like I need a highlighter because I also don't do that stuff enough to pay attention

[00:07:27] to how to do it on my Kindle. And I just don't pay attention to it. And so I'm probably going to

[00:07:32] go back through this and like flip through and like make notes in the paper copy which is also

[00:07:38] something I don't do but they were just phrases that were so well said and beautifully written

[00:07:44] that it just made the reading experience richer for me. I absolutely love that. I love that feeling

[00:07:55] when you read something that someone has written in such a way that you never could have come up

[00:08:01] with writing it that way. And it's so simple yet so profound and like all of these things all at

[00:08:06] once and you're just like oh my god how did the writer do this? I don't know but it just

[00:08:11] it just blows me away. It blows my mind every single time and I love it. So I think that

[00:08:19] makes me want to read it more than your description of it. Yeah. I always think like

[00:08:25] because I admire author so much of my brain doesn't work that way. I think gosh like

[00:08:31] to be able to have a window to see how that all came together in the gears that work to make this

[00:08:38] this happen is mind-blowing to me. So I just when those things stand out like I say they really stand

[00:08:45] out because if I notice it it's a big deal. That is awesome. Okay cool well that is going on my TBR

[00:08:53] so book number one. All right my book today is quite a departure from the types of books

[00:09:01] that we typically talk about on this podcast but I can't stop talking about it and telling everyone

[00:09:08] that they need to read it so I was like I should probably do that on the podcast as well.

[00:09:13] So it's called Outlive by Peter Atia. The full title is Outlive, The Science and Art of Long

[00:09:19] Jebadi. And so I know the title Outlive makes it sound like he's going to be this is obviously

[00:09:26] nonfiction but it makes it sound like he's going to be one of those kind of I don't know

[00:09:33] weird people who are like yes I'm doing all of these things to extend my life and here's what you

[00:09:38] can do no he's not one of those people. He is just exploring literally the science of

[00:09:46] um yes how we can live longer potentially but also how we can stay healthier throughout a

[00:09:55] longer life and then how we can stay healthier as we are currently. And so the thing that to me makes

[00:10:04] the book most fascinating is the way he explains stuff that we hear every day from our doctors.

[00:10:12] So we might hear like oh yeah you need to eat healthy and you need to exercise more okay great what

[00:10:18] what does that mean. You know how much do I need to exercise? What exactly should I be eating

[00:10:23] and nobody can really tell you these things like yeah you can find all these different diets online

[00:10:28] and you can find you know different workout plans and these things but he goes into

[00:10:33] when we exercise, when we do strength training this is literally what happens to our muscles

[00:10:42] and when this happens to our muscles it changes these things in our you know in our body and

[00:10:48] whatever like he he breaks it down piece by piece and explains why we need to exercise and why

[00:10:55] we need to eat healthy and do all these things in a like scientific methodical way that actually

[00:11:01] finally makes sense to me and I'm like oh my god this is I don't know I feel like it's going

[00:11:06] to be life changing for me we'll see. I did mention on your podcast that I haven't exercised

[00:11:12] in quite a while and I need to start doing that again but maybe Peter Atia will get me to do it.

[00:11:18] So he talks about what he calls like the four horsemen of like death I guess and so the big four are

[00:11:28] cardiovascular disease cancer, neurodegenerative disease so like Alzheimer's and dimension that

[00:11:35] kind of stuff and then metabolic disorders so like diabetes and things like that

[00:11:41] and I personally have insulin resistance um thanks to PCOS I was diagnosed with it about a year ago

[00:11:49] now and when I was diagnosed I was like cool I finally have a reason for the way that I've been

[00:11:57] feeling for all of these years and no one could ever explain to me why yay I finally have an

[00:12:02] explanation but I know one ever told me how serious it was that I was diagnosed with insulin

[00:12:08] resistance and yeah they were like okay we're gonna put you on this medication and again

[00:12:13] you need to eat healthy and exercise and that is such a vague prescription of things.

[00:12:21] It is so vague right like eat healthy and exercise well does that mean I need to do boot camp

[00:12:27] does that mean I need to go to this is that mean I need to take a spin class

[00:12:31] exactly I'm 43 does that mean that I shouldn't do high impact things can someone yes I'm with you

[00:12:38] and no one can really tell you is the thing um and it's oh whatever works for your body and like

[00:12:44] the way Peter Atia describes it in his book he like imagine if someone had cancer

[00:12:50] and we went to her and we said you're gonna need chemo and she was like okay well how much

[00:12:57] and how long and what and we said well you know three to five times a week uh you know maybe uh

[00:13:05] 30 minutes per you know per session I will just see what works for you like no you would never do

[00:13:11] that why do we do that with exercise when it's so important to our health um so yeah

[00:13:19] the book is very technical it's very nerdy but I'm wanting to sit there and like highlight all of

[00:13:25] the things and he provides really actionable items for actually improving what he calls your health

[00:13:32] span which your lifespan is obviously the length that you live your health span is how healthy you are

[00:13:38] during that time um and so now I'm like wanting to just go and change my life and live better

[00:13:46] because now I understand what that like one cookie could be doing to my body you know and so

[00:13:53] I don't know it just it's it's it was incredible I still have a couple of chapters left but I have learned

[00:14:00] so much I've been telling everyone about it I'm like texting my mom and I'm like oh you need to

[00:14:06] start doing this because xy and z and then like I text my dad because he has a liver disease and

[00:14:11] I'm like did you know that this medication that you're on could be causing further issues with

[00:14:14] your liver disease and today's like yes I I know that thank you I do have doctors but um I just

[00:14:20] feel like I'm learning so much and it's been it's been incredible and I want everyone to read it

[00:14:26] so everyone can improve their lives I am very tempted I don't think it's your typical kind of book

[00:14:33] adi but with I know that you like to exercise every day and I think at least maybe reading those

[00:14:42] chapters and understanding exactly what it's doing to your body in such a positive way I don't

[00:14:48] know I feel like that could be interesting for you to read well I'm a believer in that right like

[00:14:53] nonfiction is so valuable and I read a ton of it but I think that oftentimes you can pick and choose

[00:14:59] a little bit and come back to things I talk about that with the NEagram a lot like you don't need

[00:15:04] to read 9000 books on the NEagram front to cover you know you just need to read what you need in that

[00:15:11] minute and then you can come back to it exactly and so for me it was like yeah I wanted to read the

[00:15:17] whole thing and I'm finding out a ton of incredible invaluable information out of all of it but the

[00:15:22] metabolic disorders section was very important to me because I have insulin resistance

[00:15:29] and learning exactly like what insulin resistance is such a weird phrase like I even reading about

[00:15:37] it online like googling what is insulin resistance I would still get confused about what it is and

[00:15:42] what it means and what is happening in my body and he broke it down in such an easy to understand way

[00:15:47] that I'm like oh okay now I get it now I know what's happening and what I actually need to be doing

[00:15:55] to fix it I feel like that could be said for all of your 40s

[00:16:00] okay like especially as a woman people are like I don't know do I have perimenopause

[00:16:06] am I starting on something am I still regular hormone person like I was in my 30s what is

[00:16:12] happening to my body and why did a switch flip when I turned 40 or 45 or whatever like nobody

[00:16:19] has a clear answer and so even if that book gave you little bits of hints as to what was actually

[00:16:26] happening in your body that might be helpful to all of us yeah it's a big deal and like that's

[00:16:31] my mom's biggest frustration is she'll go to the doctor and be like hey I'm really struggling

[00:16:37] to lose weight and they'll just tell her oh well you know a woman in her 60s it's just going to be

[00:16:43] harder and she's like I don't accept that I just I can't just accept that and in this book

[00:16:50] Peter Tia talks about like that's not an acceptable answer you know and he talks about medicine 1.0

[00:16:58] medicine 2.0 and medicine 3.0 so medicine 1.0 was like the dark ages where surgeons would like

[00:17:05] perform surgery without washing their hands because they didn't know what germs were medicine 2.0

[00:17:11] is what we're in now we get what diseases are we get what germs are but we're taking a very

[00:17:19] like blanket approach to everything if you have disease x then you do y and not taking into account

[00:17:25] the individual um and so he is advocating for medicine 3.0 where we do advocate for the individual

[00:17:34] and take into account that like what spikes my blood sugar may not spike your blood sugar

[00:17:40] and things like that and not just giving the answer of oh well you're in your 60s so it's

[00:17:46] going to be harder to lose weight it's not it's not an acceptable answer from a doctor of medicine

[00:17:57] so it has been really eye-opening and I know I've talked some really nerdy and scientific stuff

[00:18:04] hopefully I didn't lose people or bore people but I found it super fascinating and I think that

[00:18:11] yeah I think it's it's very useful information for anyone okay well I'm in a note I heard a

[00:18:17] birdie down okay I can't wait to nerd out and like talk science with you I'm going to check

[00:18:24] the library first before I go in and then see what I can I like I need someone to discuss all this

[00:18:30] with I've been telling everyone like can you read this please so that we can talk about it yeah

[00:18:35] so tell me about your second book okay this is all based on Addie's inability to make a decision

[00:18:41] on the the books that like like it's an opportunity right book because I'm going to talk about today

[00:18:46] so recently I read Kate Claiborne's newest book her upcoming book The Other Side of Disappearing

[00:18:52] and I will be honest and say I had no idea what I was what it was going to be about

[00:18:56] you've read Kate have you read Kate's other books I've read some of her other books I feel like

[00:19:02] she's had this interesting growth arc like her first three books are very rom-comy

[00:19:07] like light and easy and I devoured them on audio and it was all like fun that was like the

[00:19:12] love lettering series no there's one before that we're three within the lottery okay I never read that

[00:19:19] one they're all like if you have hoopla through your library they were all on my hoopla

[00:19:24] okay yeah and so I but they are just like easy right like they're easy rom-comy books

[00:19:31] and then love lettering and love it love it first um they were a little bit more like

[00:19:39] like these people have problems and we're going to sort through them and you so you get more like

[00:19:43] women's fiction e-bibes from them right and they were closed door if I remember correctly they were

[00:19:49] like yeah that sounds right like pretty clever and but hallmarkie a little bit and then last year

[00:19:57] she had Georgie all along which was a little bit leveled up and this one just had such an

[00:20:03] interesting premise so the other side of disappearing is about this true crime podcaster and her

[00:20:10] assistant I mean he is a former athlete and has this like situation with a former teammate

[00:20:19] that is driving him to be connected to this true crime podcaster because he wants to expose

[00:20:24] a piece of this sports industry and so they are looking for the real story behind this guy who

[00:20:32] committed a crime wave he's a con artist and they find this guy's girlfriend's daughter

[00:20:40] and the daughter uh the mom has disappeared like she left then 10 plus years ago to go with this

[00:20:48] con artist and has just disappeared and the the daughter has been left with a younger sister

[00:20:56] and so she's had to like drop out of college and raise the sister and like so they find her and

[00:21:02] they're like we want we want to follow this trail of where we think your mom has been

[00:21:06] and documented on the podcast in like unearthed this well it's a romance so obviously there's

[00:21:13] that arch but the interesting thing to me and the thing that I really want to know more about in

[00:21:18] K attention to is this side effect of true crime podcasts right that what what does that look like

[00:21:24] for the daughter that got left behind and if you and I were to go out and start unearthing

[00:21:31] the story that we think is interesting what wreckage or be leaving behind right and so it was just

[00:21:38] an interesting flip on this normally to be quite frank as a podcaster if a book has a podcaster in

[00:21:45] it and like because I don't I mean I know what that's like and I don't need to like you I don't know

[00:21:52] it's always portrayed differently than what I think that it should be yeah and so to have this

[00:21:57] perspective was really interesting and to put it that slip on it as to like what what's what's the

[00:22:05] fallout back here and what does that look like and what sort of situation are we not recognizing

[00:22:10] in these people's lives because they're real people with real feelings and and yes there's a romance

[00:22:15] and you love it and it's all it's well but the journey to get there was an adventure

[00:22:23] so there have been a few popular books recently that kind of do this thing that you're talking

[00:22:28] about where they flip the the true crime podcast on its head and look at the after effects of it

[00:22:35] is it ethical to be doing these types of podcasts and that kind of thing and I feel like there are

[00:22:42] almost sometimes hard for me to read because I used to be a huge true crime podcast listener

[00:22:50] um and I'm not saying like I have an issue with them now I just kind of quit listening like it just

[00:22:59] I was very big into it for a while and then I just kind of wasn't like you know one of those

[00:23:04] it was just like one of those hobbies that I have for a while and third of the side

[00:23:10] um but it makes me feel at when I read books like that I'm like oh I don't know it makes me feel

[00:23:18] icky like was I a part of this was I you know I don't know I I don't necessarily want to get into that

[00:23:24] self-examination right I am with you and I think that it maybe it was easier for me because I've

[00:23:30] hard passed on true crime like I can eat that in my brain so I didn't have that but it does make me

[00:23:37] think about what I'm doing as a podcaster not that I'm doing true crime at all that am I being kind

[00:23:42] to all of the facets of the people that I'm talking to right I mean it's so hard on a podcast

[00:23:48] because you only have a you only have so much time b you can only present what you can present like

[00:23:55] this you know we're talking about a book and we can't talk about every single aspect of the book

[00:24:01] we can't go through every single plot detail or what would be the point like no one would want

[00:24:06] to listen to that so yeah and I and sometimes I might get the details wrong sometimes I might think

[00:24:13] that um you know X happened before Y that really it was the other way around or something like that

[00:24:19] and so I don't know are we are we doing I think we're doing a service I think that we're helping people

[00:24:27] but I can definitely see where you're coming from with that thought and ultimately I think that yes

[00:24:34] you're right like we're we're doing okay things in the world but but it does like I don't know it

[00:24:40] I'm like well I'm kind of glad that I get to be a little bit more aware yeah absolutely okay so

[00:24:46] this book I feel like I'll I'll put it on my list but it will not be a priority for me because it

[00:24:54] sounds like one of those books that's going to make me feel a little too uncomfortable uh

[00:25:00] self-inter respective type thing yeah maybe yeah so thank you for those two books first of all

[00:25:10] yeah thank you for letting me talk about them all right second of all do I see Cinderella's castle

[00:25:16] in the background of your well hello there hello there it's so cold and see how it's not pink

[00:25:25] the new one is pink there is a Lego Cinderella's castle behind my head on my bookshelf

[00:25:33] for all yes there is and did you know have I told you that I'm going to Disney next week

[00:25:42] I don't think I realized it was next week yeah I'll be the list of all the things I want you to

[00:25:45] bring back for me thanks you got it no problem I'm I thought you were meeting us there to be honest so

[00:25:51] I don't know what's going on with that I would I'm not a flying band but I would you're on a flying

[00:25:57] band I feel like I will randomly open up Instagram and go to your stories and like see you're in

[00:26:04] Disney and I'll be like wait what's like you just randomly go to Disney sometimes and I love that

[00:26:12] I do I do randomly I have a good friend who's very spurred the moment not like hey tomorrow

[00:26:19] do you want to go to Disney she could be convinced but she is a little bit of a last minute planner

[00:26:25] and so she's been known to be like Adi I have Marriott points we could get this hotel the

[00:26:32] last time we went was the week after Thanksgiving and we did just that she had Marriott points

[00:26:38] so she manipulated room prices at the Swan in the Dolphin I had like parking credits at the airport

[00:26:46] parking we both wielded the old on lights I mean we just we almost made it a game like what can

[00:26:53] we manipulate with points and credits and stuff to figure out how we could do it the way we wanted to

[00:27:00] but feel like we were like financially responsible right and even when we got there we continued it

[00:27:07] because we were like you know we could split this meal and just get a fun drink and this one meal

[00:27:12] and it'll be great and and so we just did it all through the parks and never felt deprived

[00:27:17] we never felt like we were penny pinching but we just made it a game that is what I'm most excited

[00:27:26] about this time I mean I'm excited about a lot of things I'm excited to see the kids just

[00:27:32] in their element and having so much fun but I'm excited for like the game aspect of it where

[00:27:39] you know with the genie plus and like stacking the rides and all of the things and figuring out

[00:27:45] what to ride first and win and wear and all these like I have gotten so into it I've created spread

[00:27:51] sheets I it's a it's a whole thing yeah and like the strategy behind setting your alarm for 645

[00:27:58] so you can buy your genie plus and then like who's getting what first and where are you going to go

[00:28:03] and do you still because it changes all the time did you have to make park reservations so when we

[00:28:10] went last year we did but they have gotten rid of park reservations for the world not Disneyland

[00:28:17] but for Disney World they have gotten rid of park reservations so we didn't have to do that this

[00:28:21] time I didn't know how that would change because I knew in January they changed park hopper not yeah

[00:28:27] park hopper it used to be you couldn't hop until after two so you made park reservation and I've not

[00:28:34] not been in the past four weeks just see how that's different now yeah so they've totally kind of

[00:28:41] lifted those restrictions so you can park hop whenever you want and you don't have to make reservations

[00:28:48] did you get any dining reservations yes my family likes to do all of the dining

[00:28:58] so we have like reservations for sit down meals every day um we are eating in Cinderella's castle

[00:29:06] which it's gonna be so fun because that morning margo is doing bippity boppity boutique so she is

[00:29:13] getting dressed up like a princess and then we're having lunch in the castle and it's just gonna

[00:29:20] be so magical for her I can't wait um and then we're doing space 220 which is a newer restaurant

[00:29:30] I've heard that the food there has gradually gotten better so okay

[00:29:34] you think because I went in 21 and it was fine okay but also we went on the last day of the trip so

[00:29:42] everything on the last day of your trip is fine right so so I'm excited to hear what you think

[00:29:48] because I've heard from more than one place that they have made positive improvements in that

[00:29:53] I've heard that it's really good so I'm curious to see how that works out did does that one spin

[00:29:59] while you're sitting in it I don't think so okay somewhere I saw that it like spins and that made me

[00:30:07] super like very slowly obviously I mean even if it does you probably aren't gonna it's not like

[00:30:16] if it's fun and you could see the world because the it you can't see out the windows they're all like

[00:30:22] space okay a black stars so if it spins it's gonna be just like stars moving and not like okay here goes

[00:30:33] the big golf ball again you know okay that makes me feel a little bit better if it was like physically

[00:30:39] spinning it like throws off my equilibrium yeah I don't think so I think that if you get a feeling

[00:30:46] like it's spinning it's just like the version what you see is gonna be space in air carpet okay that

[00:30:53] makes me feel better that was the only thing I was nervous about yes okay well yeah so we're

[00:31:00] dining at all the places we're doing all the things I'm so excited and I mean I can't wait

[00:31:06] to report back on it I expect like a complete and total play by play oh absolutely actually

[00:31:13] meet you then I need to feel like I'm included you got it I will be texting you constantly updating

[00:31:20] all of the Instagram stories and then don't forget to text me that list of what you want

[00:31:28] happy to bring back so we didn't talk about tea because we are not together right now but you

[00:31:38] are drinking what is it that you're drinking my very favorite is butter mint it is

[00:31:44] twinnings 20s mm-hmm yeah twinnings butter mint it is like when I love peppermint tea

[00:31:53] I don't think you do do you know I do not I do not I love peppermint tea it's my go to and it has

[00:31:59] vanilla in it so it tastes like a butter mint you know like those melty mints yes so that actually

[00:32:05] makes me want to drink it because I love peppermint on its own can get better yeah and this is not

[00:32:14] this is just like it's smoother and easier and just has that hint of vanilla that makes it have

[00:32:19] that softer flavor to it and it's very cozy especially in the winter when my like I usually

[00:32:27] pause for a minute like wrap up my workday before the kids get home so I have a little bit of

[00:32:31] transition and it is just right for that I would be willing to try that peppermint somewhat tea

[00:32:41] even though I like peppermint tea um I am drinking the estate blend from Republic of tea the

[00:32:49] Downton Abbey estate blend which I drink pretty much every day because it is so tasty and delicious

[00:32:55] it's like Earl Grey with vanilla and it's so yummy I thought that is really good

[00:32:59] did I tell you that a license just watch Downton Abbey no but I love that oh my god I need to rewatch

[00:33:07] like oh so good on my podcast we talked for a minute about kids following actors and connected

[00:33:15] the dots between oh you were that person here and that person there but the other joy of parenting

[00:33:19] in kids and TV is watching them watch your favorites that's amazing it has led her into a

[00:33:26] like a PBS masterpiece deep dive oh and so she's got a list going of what's next I think she's

[00:33:33] got pulled arc on her eye on her life I still haven't seen pulled arc you need to watch pulled arc

[00:33:39] okay I have a good friend that listened to all the books a couple years ago and following her on

[00:33:44] that journey was fantastic but I started the books but having watched the show first it kind of

[00:33:50] took away from the joy that would have been the books right but yes so her and Downton

[00:33:56] brought me great joy that is amazing I love it yes well Adi thank you so much for talking

[00:34:05] books with me and for helping out while we um let Marissa do her thing um tell everyone where they

[00:34:15] can find you I am on instagram at adi dot y o d e r and you can find the podcast everywhere podcasts

[00:34:26] are available it's a grace and growth with Adi but also you can find everything at adi yoder dot com

[00:34:34] all right well Adi thank you so much and cheers thank you thanks for listening be sure to check out

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